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longhorn
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2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 09:56
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So the RWD rumors were true. Should help it dominate the Law Enforcement business as Ford did with the Crown Vic.

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-explorer-debuts-less-weight-new-rwd-platform/


NealX
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 10:22
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nice colors

rev2damoon
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 10:25
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I think they pretty much made it known that the new Explorer would share a platform with the new Lincoln Aviator which is also RWD.

Looks OK overall to me though. Definitely better looking than the current Pilot...which isn't a hard thing to pull off.

JonBoy
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 10:25
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It looks really good, to my eye, at least on the outside.

What were they thinking with that huge vertical screen on the inside, though? It looks like someone threw it at the center console and that's how it stuck. It looks absolutely ridiculous.

rev2damoon
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 10:34
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With the continued prominence of smart phones and their interconnectability with cars, it wouldn't surprise me to see more automakers adopt these "portrait formatted" screens. Mirroring the phone's screen?
Dren
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 10:49
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The higher model Rams have large screens in portrait mode, too.
Jovian8
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 2, Funny) 01-10-2019 11:24
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Now that they have a new RWD platform... shame about the timing with the disappearance of sedans.


JonBoy
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 12:09
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rev2damoon wrote:
With the continued prominence of smart phones and their interconnectability with cars, it wouldn't surprise me to see more automakers adopt these "portrait formatted" screens. Mirroring the phone's screen?


I understand the layout and the reason for the orientation. However, most makers don't have it jutting up from the center console. They integrate (most of) it so that it blends in. The Miata has a more prominent screen, as do some Mercedes, but nowhere near as tall/obvious as this.

This one looks like someone jammed it down into the center console and inch or two and then called it good. It has no flow, no blending, no real integration. It's silly.

See similar ones for reference on how to integrate a vertical screen properly.

2019 Dodge Ram



2019 Volvo XC90



Now contrast that with the new Ford Explorer.



See how ridiculous it looks, in comparison?

rev2damoon
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 12:20
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JonBoy wrote:
rev2damoon wrote:
With the continued prominence of smart phones and their interconnectability with cars, it wouldn't surprise me to see more automakers adopt these "portrait formatted" screens. Mirroring the phone's screen?


I understand the layout and the reason for the orientation. However, most makers don't have it jutting up from the center console. They integrate (most of) it so that it blends in. The Miata has a more prominent screen, as do some Mercedes, but nowhere near as tall/obvious as this.

This one looks like someone jammed it down into the center console and inch or two and then called it good. It has no flow, no blending, no real integration. It's silly.

See similar ones for reference on how to integrate a vertical screen properly.

2019 Dodge Ram



2019 Volvo XC90



Now contrast that with the new Ford Explorer.



See how ridiculous it looks, in comparison?


I don't really have an opinion on it either way to be honest, but it doesn't bother me as much. My comment was addressing the increasingly popular portrait screen layout, not design which I have grown to accept are simply subjective.

CarPhreakD
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 12:32
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rev2damoon wrote:
With the continued prominence of smart phones and their interconnectability with cars, it wouldn't surprise me to see more automakers adopt these "portrait formatted" screens. Mirroring the phone's screen?


Not really mirroring the phone's screen as much as allowing a "dual" screen setup without an Acura-esque actual double screen layout. There's only so much width available, unless you opt for one of the newer German luxury cars where the instrument cluster is essentially combined with the central infotainment cluster. Personally I have a hard time deciding which one I like better (vertical vs. horizontal eye movements).

The Ford Exploder's implementation is aesthetically pretty disgusting, but it does mean that the screen as a whole is moved upwards for easier visibility while keeping a low dashboard.

rev2damoon
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 12:43
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CarPhreakD wrote:
rev2damoon wrote:
With the continued prominence of smart phones and their interconnectability with cars, it wouldn't surprise me to see more automakers adopt these "portrait formatted" screens. Mirroring the phone's screen?


Not really mirroring the phone's screen as much as allowing a "dual" screen setup without an Acura-esque actual double screen layout. There's only so much width available, unless you opt for one of the newer German luxury cars where the instrument cluster is essentially combined with the central infotainment cluster. Personally I have a hard time deciding which one I like better (vertical vs. horizontal eye movements).

The Ford Exploder's implementation is aesthetically pretty disgusting, but it does mean that the screen as a whole is moved upwards for easier visibility while keeping a low dashboard.


That's an interesting point. Form follows function? I would be interested in hearing the designer/engineer's reasonings behind the layout implemented here.

RMTRADER
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 12:43
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The current version is a massive rolling turd with respect to reliability. Doubt this version will be any better.
NealX
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 12:46
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RMTRADER wrote:
The current version is a massive rolling turd with respect to reliability. Doubt this version will be any better.

Would you say that's a good reason to lease?

RMTRADER
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 12:57
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NealX wrote:
RMTRADER wrote:
The current version is a massive rolling turd with respect to reliability. Doubt this version will be any better.

Would you say that's a good reason to lease?



Well played.


THX17201
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 14:51
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NealX wrote:
RMTRADER wrote:
The current version is a massive rolling turd with respect to reliability. Doubt this version will be any better.

Would you say that's a good reason to lease?



LOL +1!

TonyEX
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 14:56
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NealX wrote:
RMTRADER wrote:
The current version is a massive rolling turd with respect to reliability. Doubt this version will be any better.

Would you say that's a good reason to lease?



I see what you did right there.

Bravo!

;-)

cksi1372
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 16:46
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NealX wrote:


nice colors



I've always liked the look for the Explorer in this iteration...very Range Rover -esqu, and even the inside looks nice and basic with not too many buttons, etc. That said, the screen does look tacked on and quite out of place in these pictures. Maybe in person it will look better.

As an aside, I rode in a Tesla Model S for the first time last night and that screen is friggin huge. It was almost too distracting for me. That's the way the car world is going, however.

gofast182
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 16:59
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I guess I'm in the minority? I'm not a fan of the front grille area, can't pinpoint why, I think it's the headlights, maybe a bit of Subaru in there. I think they missed an opportunity to enhance the dash-axle ratio with the RWD architecture. And on the inside that touch screen looks silly.
according2kev
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 18:11
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gofast182 wrote:
I guess I'm in the minority? I'm not a fan of the front grille area, can't pinpoint why, I think it's the headlights, maybe a bit of Subaru in there. I think they missed an opportunity to enhance the dash-axle ratio with the RWD architecture. And on the inside that touch screen looks silly.


I guess we both are. The side doesn't look too different, the rear is a wash I suppose...no better or worse than the current one, but the front is dorky and cheap looking.

MSZ
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 19:19
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gofast182 wrote:
I guess I'm in the minority? I'm not a fan of the front grille area, can't pinpoint why, I think it's the headlights, maybe a bit of Subaru in there. I think they missed an opportunity to enhance the dash-axle ratio with the RWD architecture. And on the inside that touch screen looks silly.


They are saving the sexier side profile for Aviator. The Lincoln does have a much dash to axle ratio.

Mikeydred
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Re: 2019 Ford Explorer..............Yes RWD    (Score: 1, Normal) 01-10-2019 20:56
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gofast182 wrote:
I guess I'm in the minority? I'm not a fan of the front grille area, can't pinpoint why, I think it's the headlights, maybe a bit of Subaru in there. I think they missed an opportunity to enhance the dash-axle ratio with the RWD architecture. And on the inside that touch screen looks silly.

Was thinking the same thing on dash to axle but I think compared to last overall side profile is more balance and less frumpy up front, but otherwise it looks very FWD if nobody pointed out it was RWD would have guess otherwise based on looks. Not too sure on Ford engines but I know there are different variations of the EcoBoost, this is likley using the transverse mounted one, more of a carryover.


 
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